MED. 4.50Discipline of desire
George Long · 1862EN · Long

It is a vulgar, but still a useful EXERCISEhelp towards contempt of death, to pass in review those who have tenaciously stuck to life. What more then have they gained than those who have died early? Certainly they lie in their tombs somewhere at last, Cadicianus, Fabius, Julianus, Lepidus1, or any one else like them, who have carried out many to be buried, and then were carried out themselves. Altogether the interval is small between birth and death; and consider with how much trouble, and in company with what sort of people and in what a feeble body this interval is laboriously passed. DOGMADo not then consider life a thing of any value. EXERCISEFor look to the immensity of time behind thee, and to the time which is before thee, another boundless space. In this infinity then what is the difference between him who lives three days and him who lives three generations?

Original · ancient Greek

Ἰδιωτικὸν μέν, ὅμως δὲ ἀνυστικὸν βοήθημα πρὸς θανάτου καταφρόνησιν ἡ ἀναπόλησις τῶν γλίσχρως ἐνδιατριψάντων τῷ ζῆν. τί οὖν αὐτοῖς πλέον ἢ τοῖς ἀώροις; πάντως πού ποτε κεῖνται, Καδικιανός, Φάβιος, Ἰουλιανός, Λέπιδος ἢ εἴ τις τοιοῦτος, οἳ πολλοὺς ἐξήνεγκαν, εἶτα ἐξηνέχθησαν· ὅλον, μικρόν ἐστι τὸ διάστημα καὶ τοῦτο δι’ ὅσων καὶ μεθ’ οἵων ἐξαντλούμενον καὶ ἐν οἵῳ σωματίῳ; μὴ οὖν ὡς πρᾶγμα. βλέπε γὰρ ὀπίσω τὸ ἀχανὲς τοῦ αἰῶνος καὶ τὸ πρόσω ἄλλο ἄπειρον. ἐν δὴ τούτῳ τί διαφέρει ὁ τριήμερος τοῦ τριγερηνίου;

Leopold · Teubner 1908
Commentary

Genre and place in the book. Another memory of death, called "homely" (ἰδιωτικόν) but "effective" (ἀνυστικόν): the means is to recall the long-lived. It is joined to the view from above on the abyss of time.

The long-lived gained nothing. Recall those who clung to life (γλίσχρως ἐνδιατριψάντων) — what "more" did they get than those who died untimely (ἄωροι)? They lie in their tombs — Cadicianus, Fabius, Julianus, Lepidus1 — who buried many and were then buried themselves. The interval of life is small in any case, and it is drained amid toils, in mixed company, in a "poor body" (σωμάτιον).

Do not treat life as a value. DOGMAμὴ οὖν ὡς πρᾶγμα — do not prize the length of life as something great: lifespan is an indifferent, not a good (the same verdict as 04-47; the good is in virtue, not in duration).

The view from above on time. EXERCISEβλέπε ὀπίσω τὸ ἀχανὲς τοῦ αἰῶνος — look back at the boundless abyss of time behind, and the other infinity ahead; against this, τριήμερος (the three-day-old) and τριγερήνιος (the thrice-aged, an allusion to Nestor, who outlived three generations) come to the same. The temporal mode of the view from above (cf. 04-32).

The disciplines. The principal one is desire: to release the craving for long life and to despise death. The secondary is assent: the right judgement — the length of life is negligible, no value.

The exercises. EXERCISEThe memory of death (recalling the long-lived dead as an "aid to the contempt of death") and the EXERCISEview from above (the abyss of time before and after).

Parallels. The length of life is indifferent — 04-47; Med. 2.14 (cf. DOGMAvirtue-is-sufficient). To recall the long-lived dead — 04-48; 03-03 (cf. EXERCISEmeditatio-mortis). The abyss of time — 04-32 (cf. EXERCISEview-from-above).

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Discipline of desire

George Long · 1862· EN · Long

It is a vulgar, but still a useful EXERCISEhelp towards contempt of death, to pass in review those who have tenaciously stuck to life. What more then have they gained than those who have died early? Certainly they lie in their tombs somewhere at last, Cadicianus, Fabius, Julianus, Lepidus1, or any one else like them, who have carried out many to be buried, and then were carried out themselves. Altogether the interval is small between birth and death; and consider with how much trouble, and in company with what sort of people and in what a feeble body this interval is laboriously passed. DOGMADo not then consider life a thing of any value. EXERCISEFor look to the immensity of time behind thee, and to the time which is before thee, another boundless space. In this infinity then what is the difference between him who lives three days and him who lives three generations?

Original · ancient Greek

Ἰδιωτικὸν μέν, ὅμως δὲ ἀνυστικὸν βοήθημα πρὸς θανάτου καταφρόνησιν ἡ ἀναπόλησις τῶν γλίσχρως ἐνδιατριψάντων τῷ ζῆν. τί οὖν αὐτοῖς πλέον ἢ τοῖς ἀώροις; πάντως πού ποτε κεῖνται, Καδικιανός, Φάβιος, Ἰουλιανός, Λέπιδος ἢ εἴ τις τοιοῦτος, οἳ πολλοὺς ἐξήνεγκαν, εἶτα ἐξηνέχθησαν· ὅλον, μικρόν ἐστι τὸ διάστημα καὶ τοῦτο δι’ ὅσων καὶ μεθ’ οἵων ἐξαντλούμενον καὶ ἐν οἵῳ σωματίῳ; μὴ οὖν ὡς πρᾶγμα. βλέπε γὰρ ὀπίσω τὸ ἀχανὲς τοῦ αἰῶνος καὶ τὸ πρόσω ἄλλο ἄπειρον. ἐν δὴ τούτῳ τί διαφέρει ὁ τριήμερος τοῦ τριγερηνίου;

Leopold · Teubner 1908
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Commentary

Genre and place in the book. Another memory of death, called "homely" (ἰδιωτικόν) but "effective" (ἀνυστικόν): the means is to recall the long-lived. It is joined to the view from above on the abyss of time.

The long-lived gained nothing. Recall those who clung to life (γλίσχρως ἐνδιατριψάντων) — what "more" did they get than those who died untimely (ἄωροι)? They lie in their tombs — Cadicianus, Fabius, Julianus, Lepidus1 — who buried many and were then buried themselves. The interval of life is small in any case, and it is drained amid toils, in mixed company, in a "poor body" (σωμάτιον).

Do not treat life as a value. DOGMAμὴ οὖν ὡς πρᾶγμα — do not prize the length of life as something great: lifespan is an indifferent, not a good (the same verdict as 04-47; the good is in virtue, not in duration).

The view from above on time. EXERCISEβλέπε ὀπίσω τὸ ἀχανὲς τοῦ αἰῶνος — look back at the boundless abyss of time behind, and the other infinity ahead; against this, τριήμερος (the three-day-old) and τριγερήνιος (the thrice-aged, an allusion to Nestor, who outlived three generations) come to the same. The temporal mode of the view from above (cf. 04-32).

The disciplines. The principal one is desire: to release the craving for long life and to despise death. The secondary is assent: the right judgement — the length of life is negligible, no value.

The exercises. EXERCISEThe memory of death (recalling the long-lived dead as an "aid to the contempt of death") and the EXERCISEview from above (the abyss of time before and after).

Parallels. The length of life is indifferent — 04-47; Med. 2.14 (cf. DOGMAvirtue-is-sufficient). To recall the long-lived dead — 04-48; 03-03 (cf. EXERCISEmeditatio-mortis). The abyss of time — 04-32 (cf. EXERCISEview-from-above).

DisciplineDiscipline of desire
Record added2026-06-26
Statuspublished