MED. 10.36Discipline of desire
George Long · 1862EN · Long

There is no man so fortunate that there shall not be by him when he is dying some who are pleased with what is going to happen. Suppose that he was a good and wise man, will there not be at least some one to say to himself, Let us at last breathe freely, being relieved from this schoolmaster? It is true that he was harsh to none of us, but I perceived that he tacitly condemns us. This is what is said of a good man. But in our own case how many other things are there for which there are many who wish to get rid of us? EXERCISEThou wilt consider this, then, when thou art dying, and thou wilt depart more contentedly by reflecting thus: I am going away from such a life, in which even my associates in behalf of whom I have striven so much, prayed, and cared, themselves wish me to depart, hoping perchance to get some little advantage by it. Why then should a man cling to a longer stay here? MOTIFDo not, however, for this reason go away less kindly disposed to them, but preserving thy own character, and friendly and benevolent and mild, and on the other hand not as if thou wast torn away; but as when a man dies a quiet death, the poor TERMsoul is easily separated from the body, such also ought thy departure from men to be, for TERMnature united thee to them and associated thee. But does she now dissolve the union? Well, DOGMAI am separated as from kinsmen, DOGMAnot however dragged resisting, but without compulsion; for DOGMAthis, too, is one of the things according to nature.

Original · ancient Greek

Οὐδείς ἐστιν οὕτως εὔποτμος ᾧ ἀποθνῄσκοντι οὐ παρεστήξονταί τινες ἀσπαζόμενοι τὸ συμβαῖνον κακόν. σπουδαῖος καὶ σοφὸς ἦν· μὴ τὸ πανύστατον ἔσται τις ὁ καθ’ αὑτὸν λέγων· ἀναπνεύσομέν ποτε ἀπὸ τούτου τοῦ παιδαγωγοῦ; χαλεπὸς μὲν οὐδενὶ ἡμῶν ἦν, ἀλλὰ ᾐσθανόμην ὅτι ἡσυχῇ καταγινώσκει ἡμῶν. ταῦτα μὲν οὖν ἐπὶ τοῦ σπουδαίου, ἐφ’ ἡμῶν δὲ πόσα ἄλλα ἐστί, δι’ ἃ πολὺς ὁ ἀπαλλακτιῶν ἡμῶν. τοῦτο οὖν ἐννοήσεις ἀποθνῄσκων καὶ εὐκολώτερον ἐξελεύσῃ, λογιζόμενος· ἐκ τοιούτου βίου ἀπέρχομαι, ἐν ᾧ αὐτοὶ οἱ κοινωνοί, ὑπὲρ ὧν τὰ τοσαῦτα ἠγωνισάμην, ηὐξάμην, ἐφρόντισα, αὐτοὶ ἐκεῖνοι θέλουσί με ὑπάγειν, ἄλλην τινὰ τυχὸν ἐκ τούτου ῥᾳστώνην ἐλπίζοντες. τί ἂν οὖν τις ἀντέχοιτο τῆς ἐνταῦθα μακροτέρας διατριβῆς; μὴ μέντοι διὰ τοῦτο ἔλαττον εὐμενὴς αὐτοῖς ἄπιθι, ἀλλὰ τὸ ἴδιον ἔθος διασῴζων, φίλος καὶ εὔνους καὶ ἵλεως· καὶ μὴ πάλιν ὡς ἀποσπώμενος, ἀλλ’ ὥσπερ ἐπὶ τοῦ εὐθανατοῦντος εὐκόλως τὸ ψυχάριον ἀπὸ τοῦ σώματος ἐξειλεῖται, τοιαύτην καὶ τὴν ἀπὸ τούτων ἀποχώρησιν δεῖ γίνεσθαι· καὶ γὰρ τούτοις ἡ φύσις συνῆψέ σε καὶ συνέκρινεν, ἀλλὰ νῦν διαλύει. διαλύομαι ὡς ἀπὸ οἰκείων μέν, οὐ μὴν ἀνθελκόμενος ἀλλ’ ἀβιάστως· ἓν γὰρ καὶ τοῦτο τῶν κατὰ φύσιν.

Leopold · Teubner 1908
Commentary

Not an argument but a scene with someone else's line. Marcus does not prove that dying is not to be feared — he sets a scene and puts into it the direct speech of an outsider: ἀναπνεύσομέν ποτε ἀπὸ τούτου τοῦ παιδαγωγοῦ; — "shall we at last breathe free of this paedagogue?" A παιδαγωγός was not a teacher but the slave who walked a child to school and kept watch over him: an appointed overseer. That, Marcus says, is how the presence of a good man feels to those beside him.

The qualification that stings worse than the charge. χαλεπὸς μὲν οὐδενὶ ἡμῶν ἦν, ἀλλὰ ᾐσθανόμην ὅτι ἡσυχῇ καταγινώσκει ἡμῶν — "he was harsh to none of us, but I could feel that he silently condemned us." The grievance is withdrawn and at once replaced by a worse one: it is not the deeds that grate but the unspoken verdict. There is nothing to accuse him of — and precisely for that he will not be forgiven.

The movement from the better man to oneself. ταῦτα μὲν οὖν ἐπὶ τοῦ σπουδαίου — "so much for the man of worth" (σπουδαῖος is the school's term for the virtuous, nearly "the sage"); ἐφ’ ἡμῶν δὲ πόσα ἄλλα ἐστί — "and in our own case, how many other things there are." The usual consoling move would run the other way: "at least you are not like that." Marcus applies to himself not the mitigation but the aggravation.

What the whole argument is for. EXERCISEεὐκολώτερον ἐξελεύσῃ — "you will go out the more easily." The aim is not resentment but a loosening of the grip: if even the κοινωνοί (the "sharers," those with whom one's life is held in common), for whose sake you ἠγωνισάμην, ηὐξάμην, ἐφρόντισα — "fought, prayed, took thought" — themselves want you gone, then τί ἂν οὖν τις ἀντέχοιτο; — "what is there to hold on for?" Three aorists list what was invested; the single θέλουσί με ὑπάγειν answers them all.

The turn that cancels the grievance. The argument could have ended in bitterness, and Marcus posts a direct prohibition: MOTIFμὴ μέντοι διὰ τοῦτο ἔλαττον MOTIFεὐμενὴςMOTIF αὐτοῖς ἄπιθι. The same word εὐμενής stands at 8.47 of departing from life. Then the triad φίλος καὶ εὔνους καὶ ἵλεως ("a friend, well-disposed, gracious") and, above all, the ground: τὸ ἴδιον ἔθος διασῴζων — "preserving your own character." Their conduct does not alter yours precisely because yours is not a function of theirs.

The image of an easy death. ὥσπερ ἐπὶ τοῦ εὐθανατοῦντος εὐκόλως τὸ TERMψυχάριον ἀπὸ τοῦ σώματος ἐξειλεῖται — "as in one who dies easily the little soul slips free of the body." The verb ἐξειλέω is "to work oneself loose, to disentangle"; the diminutive ψυχάριον is not contempt but scale (cf. 9.3, where the ψυχάριον falls from its "husk" as one awaits a birth). The image is then transferred from the body to people: just so, without a wrench, one must come away from them.

The undoing of what had been joined. καὶ γὰρ τούτοις ἡ TERMφύσις συνῆψέ σε καὶ συνέκρινεν, ἀλλὰ νῦν διαλύει — two verbs of binding ("joined" and "compounded") against one of release. And hence DOGMAδιαλύομαι ὡς ἀπὸ DOGMAοἰκείων — "I am parted as from my own": the οἰκει- root is that of the Stoic doctrine of appropriation. The close keeps its measure: DOGMAοὐ μὴν ἀνθελκόμενος ἀλλ’ ἀβιάστως — "not dragged back (ἀνθέλκω, to pull in the opposite direction — the picture of one digging in his heels) but without violence"; and DOGMAἓν γὰρ καὶ τοῦτο τῶν κατὰ φύσιν. The governing discipline is desire, the sustaining one action.

A note on the translations. μὴ τὸ πανύστατον ἔσται τις — "will there not, at the very last, be someone"; Long gives "at least," Rogovin «в конце концов», which is closer to the Greek. And ἀλλὰ νῦν διαλύει Long turns into a question ("But does she now dissolve the union?") that the Greek does not have; the modernization restores the statement.

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Discipline of desire

George Long · 1862· EN · Long

There is no man so fortunate that there shall not be by him when he is dying some who are pleased with what is going to happen. Suppose that he was a good and wise man, will there not be at least some one to say to himself, Let us at last breathe freely, being relieved from this schoolmaster? It is true that he was harsh to none of us, but I perceived that he tacitly condemns us. This is what is said of a good man. But in our own case how many other things are there for which there are many who wish to get rid of us? EXERCISEThou wilt consider this, then, when thou art dying, and thou wilt depart more contentedly by reflecting thus: I am going away from such a life, in which even my associates in behalf of whom I have striven so much, prayed, and cared, themselves wish me to depart, hoping perchance to get some little advantage by it. Why then should a man cling to a longer stay here? MOTIFDo not, however, for this reason go away less kindly disposed to them, but preserving thy own character, and friendly and benevolent and mild, and on the other hand not as if thou wast torn away; but as when a man dies a quiet death, the poor TERMsoul is easily separated from the body, such also ought thy departure from men to be, for TERMnature united thee to them and associated thee. But does she now dissolve the union? Well, DOGMAI am separated as from kinsmen, DOGMAnot however dragged resisting, but without compulsion; for DOGMAthis, too, is one of the things according to nature.

Original · ancient Greek

Οὐδείς ἐστιν οὕτως εὔποτμος ᾧ ἀποθνῄσκοντι οὐ παρεστήξονταί τινες ἀσπαζόμενοι τὸ συμβαῖνον κακόν. σπουδαῖος καὶ σοφὸς ἦν· μὴ τὸ πανύστατον ἔσται τις ὁ καθ’ αὑτὸν λέγων· ἀναπνεύσομέν ποτε ἀπὸ τούτου τοῦ παιδαγωγοῦ; χαλεπὸς μὲν οὐδενὶ ἡμῶν ἦν, ἀλλὰ ᾐσθανόμην ὅτι ἡσυχῇ καταγινώσκει ἡμῶν. ταῦτα μὲν οὖν ἐπὶ τοῦ σπουδαίου, ἐφ’ ἡμῶν δὲ πόσα ἄλλα ἐστί, δι’ ἃ πολὺς ὁ ἀπαλλακτιῶν ἡμῶν. τοῦτο οὖν ἐννοήσεις ἀποθνῄσκων καὶ εὐκολώτερον ἐξελεύσῃ, λογιζόμενος· ἐκ τοιούτου βίου ἀπέρχομαι, ἐν ᾧ αὐτοὶ οἱ κοινωνοί, ὑπὲρ ὧν τὰ τοσαῦτα ἠγωνισάμην, ηὐξάμην, ἐφρόντισα, αὐτοὶ ἐκεῖνοι θέλουσί με ὑπάγειν, ἄλλην τινὰ τυχὸν ἐκ τούτου ῥᾳστώνην ἐλπίζοντες. τί ἂν οὖν τις ἀντέχοιτο τῆς ἐνταῦθα μακροτέρας διατριβῆς; μὴ μέντοι διὰ τοῦτο ἔλαττον εὐμενὴς αὐτοῖς ἄπιθι, ἀλλὰ τὸ ἴδιον ἔθος διασῴζων, φίλος καὶ εὔνους καὶ ἵλεως· καὶ μὴ πάλιν ὡς ἀποσπώμενος, ἀλλ’ ὥσπερ ἐπὶ τοῦ εὐθανατοῦντος εὐκόλως τὸ ψυχάριον ἀπὸ τοῦ σώματος ἐξειλεῖται, τοιαύτην καὶ τὴν ἀπὸ τούτων ἀποχώρησιν δεῖ γίνεσθαι· καὶ γὰρ τούτοις ἡ φύσις συνῆψέ σε καὶ συνέκρινεν, ἀλλὰ νῦν διαλύει. διαλύομαι ὡς ἀπὸ οἰκείων μέν, οὐ μὴν ἀνθελκόμενος ἀλλ’ ἀβιάστως· ἓν γὰρ καὶ τοῦτο τῶν κατὰ φύσιν.

Leopold · Teubner 1908
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Commentary

Not an argument but a scene with someone else's line. Marcus does not prove that dying is not to be feared — he sets a scene and puts into it the direct speech of an outsider: ἀναπνεύσομέν ποτε ἀπὸ τούτου τοῦ παιδαγωγοῦ; — "shall we at last breathe free of this paedagogue?" A παιδαγωγός was not a teacher but the slave who walked a child to school and kept watch over him: an appointed overseer. That, Marcus says, is how the presence of a good man feels to those beside him.

The qualification that stings worse than the charge. χαλεπὸς μὲν οὐδενὶ ἡμῶν ἦν, ἀλλὰ ᾐσθανόμην ὅτι ἡσυχῇ καταγινώσκει ἡμῶν — "he was harsh to none of us, but I could feel that he silently condemned us." The grievance is withdrawn and at once replaced by a worse one: it is not the deeds that grate but the unspoken verdict. There is nothing to accuse him of — and precisely for that he will not be forgiven.

The movement from the better man to oneself. ταῦτα μὲν οὖν ἐπὶ τοῦ σπουδαίου — "so much for the man of worth" (σπουδαῖος is the school's term for the virtuous, nearly "the sage"); ἐφ’ ἡμῶν δὲ πόσα ἄλλα ἐστί — "and in our own case, how many other things there are." The usual consoling move would run the other way: "at least you are not like that." Marcus applies to himself not the mitigation but the aggravation.

What the whole argument is for. EXERCISEεὐκολώτερον ἐξελεύσῃ — "you will go out the more easily." The aim is not resentment but a loosening of the grip: if even the κοινωνοί (the "sharers," those with whom one's life is held in common), for whose sake you ἠγωνισάμην, ηὐξάμην, ἐφρόντισα — "fought, prayed, took thought" — themselves want you gone, then τί ἂν οὖν τις ἀντέχοιτο; — "what is there to hold on for?" Three aorists list what was invested; the single θέλουσί με ὑπάγειν answers them all.

The turn that cancels the grievance. The argument could have ended in bitterness, and Marcus posts a direct prohibition: MOTIFμὴ μέντοι διὰ τοῦτο ἔλαττον MOTIFεὐμενὴςMOTIF αὐτοῖς ἄπιθι. The same word εὐμενής stands at 8.47 of departing from life. Then the triad φίλος καὶ εὔνους καὶ ἵλεως ("a friend, well-disposed, gracious") and, above all, the ground: τὸ ἴδιον ἔθος διασῴζων — "preserving your own character." Their conduct does not alter yours precisely because yours is not a function of theirs.

The image of an easy death. ὥσπερ ἐπὶ τοῦ εὐθανατοῦντος εὐκόλως τὸ TERMψυχάριον ἀπὸ τοῦ σώματος ἐξειλεῖται — "as in one who dies easily the little soul slips free of the body." The verb ἐξειλέω is "to work oneself loose, to disentangle"; the diminutive ψυχάριον is not contempt but scale (cf. 9.3, where the ψυχάριον falls from its "husk" as one awaits a birth). The image is then transferred from the body to people: just so, without a wrench, one must come away from them.

The undoing of what had been joined. καὶ γὰρ τούτοις ἡ TERMφύσις συνῆψέ σε καὶ συνέκρινεν, ἀλλὰ νῦν διαλύει — two verbs of binding ("joined" and "compounded") against one of release. And hence DOGMAδιαλύομαι ὡς ἀπὸ DOGMAοἰκείων — "I am parted as from my own": the οἰκει- root is that of the Stoic doctrine of appropriation. The close keeps its measure: DOGMAοὐ μὴν ἀνθελκόμενος ἀλλ’ ἀβιάστως — "not dragged back (ἀνθέλκω, to pull in the opposite direction — the picture of one digging in his heels) but without violence"; and DOGMAἓν γὰρ καὶ τοῦτο τῶν κατὰ φύσιν. The governing discipline is desire, the sustaining one action.

A note on the translations. μὴ τὸ πανύστατον ἔσται τις — "will there not, at the very last, be someone"; Long gives "at least," Rogovin «в конце концов», which is closer to the Greek. And ἀλλὰ νῦν διαλύει Long turns into a question ("But does she now dissolve the union?") that the Greek does not have; the modernization restores the statement.

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