MED. 5.6Discipline of action
George Long · 1862EN · Long

One man, when he has done a service to another, is ready to set it down to his account as a favour conferred. Another is not ready to do this, but still in his own mind he thinks of the man as his debtor, and he knows what he has done. A third in a manner does not even know what he has done, but he is like a vine which has produced grapes, and seeks for nothing more after it has once produced its proper fruit. MOTIFAs a horse when he has run, a dog when he has tracked the game, a bee when it has made the honey, so a man when he has done a good act, does not call out for others to come and see, but he goes on to another act, as a vine goes on to produce again the grapes in season.- Must a man then be one of these, who in a manner act thus without observing it?- Yes.- But this very thing is necessary, the EXERCISEobservation of what a man is doing: for, it may be said, it is characteristic of TERMthe social animal to perceive that he is working in a social manner, and indeed to wish that his social partner also should perceive it.- It is true what thou sayest, but thou dost not rightly understand what is now said: and for this reason thou wilt become one of those of whom I spoke before, for even they are misled by a certain show of reason. But if thou wilt choose to understand the meaning of what is said, do not fear that for this reason thou wilt omit any social act.

Original · ancient Greek

Ὁ μέν τίς ἐστιν, ὅταν τι δεξιὸν περί τινα πράξῃ, πρόχειρος καὶ λογίσασθαι αὐτῷ τὴν χάριν. ὁ δὲ πρὸς μὲν τοῦτο οὐ πρόχειρος, ἄλλως μέντοι παρ’ ἑαυτῷ ὡς περὶ χρεώστου διανοεῖται καὶ οἶδεν ὃ πεποίηκεν. ὁ δέ τις τρόπον τινὰ οὐδὲ οἶδεν ὃ πεποίηκεν, ἀλλὰ ὅμοιός ἐστιν ἀμπέλῳ βότρυν ἐνεγκούσῃ καὶ μηδὲν ἄλλο προσεπιζητούσῃ μετὰ τὸ ἅπαξ τὸν ἴδιον καρπὸν ἐνηνοχέναι.

ἵππος δραμών, κύων ἰχνεύσας, μέλισσα μέλι ποιήσασα, ἄνθρωπος δ’ εὖ ποιήσας οὐκ ἐπιβοᾶται, ἀλλὰ μεταβαίνει ἐφ’ ἕτερον, ὡς ἄμπελος ἐπὶ τὸ πάλιν ἐν τῇ ὥρᾳ τὸν βότρυν ἐνεγκεῖν. ἐν τούτοις οὗν δεῖ εἶναι τοῖς τρόπον τινὰ ἀπαρακολουθήτως αὐτὸ ποιοῦσι.— ναί ἀλλ’ αὐτὸ τοῦτο δεῖ παρακολουθεῖν· ἴδιον γάρ, φησί, τοῦ κοινωνικοῦ τὸ αἰσθάνεσθαι, ὅτι κοινωνικῶς ἐνεργεῖ, καὶ νὴ Δία βούλεσθαι καὶ τὸν κοινωνὸν αἰσθέσθαι.—ἀληθὲς μέν ἐστιν ὃ λέγεις, τὸ δὲ νῦν λεγόμενον παρεκδέχῃ· διὰ τοῦτο ἔσῃ εἶς ἐκείνων ὦν πρότερον ἐπεμνήσθην· καὶ γὰρ ἐκεῖνοι λογικῇ τινι πιθανότητι παράγονται. ἐὰν δὲ θελήσῃς συνεῖναι τί ποτέ ἐστι τὸ λεγόμενον, μὴ φοβοῦ, μὴ παρὰ τοῦτο παραλίπῃς τι ἔργον κοινωνικόν.

Leopold · Teubner 1908
Commentary

Place in the book. The sixth passage is about the manner of doing good: not what to do, but how. The ideal is an unselfconscious virtue, "like the vine"; but Marcus at once raises an objection and works through it. The discipline of action (the social deed) with a layer of assent (self-awareness).

Three kinds of benefactor. An ascending scale: (1) the one who, having done a service, at once "enters it on the account" as a debt (λογίσασθαι τὴν χάριν); (2) the one who makes no open claim but inwardly counts the other his debtor (χρεώστης) and "knows what he has done"; (3) the one who "in a way does not even know what he has done" — like a vine that has borne its cluster and seeks nothing more, once it has yielded its own fruit (ἴδιος καρπός). The third is the ideal: good as natural fruit-bearing, without self-accounting.

The vine and the creatures. The horse has run, the dog has tracked, the bee has made honey; the man who has done good "does not call out" (οὐκ ἐπιβοᾶται) but passes on to the next — as the vine bears its cluster again in season. The image of MOTIFcreatures at their work: each fulfils its own and goes on. Cf. Med. 7.73: having done good and seeing it received, "do not look, as fools do, for a third thing — the reputation of a good deed, or a return."

The objection and παρακολούθησις. The interlocutor: but one must be aware! "It belongs to the TERMsocial being to perceive that it acts socially (κοινωνικῶς), and even to wish its partner (κοινωνός) to perceive it too." This appeals to EXERCISEself-tracking — the rational soul's power to notice its own acts. Marcus does not deny it, but: "you have not rightly understood what was said."

The resolution. The subtlety is that the awareness proper to a rational-social being is not the reckoning of merits (types 1–2) but the transparency of the act itself to itself; the demand for recognition is a "plausibility of reasoning" (λογικὴ πιθανότης) — the very thing that leads the first types astray. Rightly understood, "unselfconscious" fruit-bearing cancels neither awareness nor the doing of deeds: "have no fear that you will omit any social act" (ἔργον κοινωνικόν). The ideal is not unconsciousness but unself-regarding clarity.

Discipline and parallels. The principal discipline is action (the unself-regarding social deed); the secondary is assent (self-awareness, EXERCISEπαρακολούθησις). The image is MOTIFcreatures-at-work; the term is TERMkoinonikon. Parallel: Med. 7.73.

DisciplineDiscipline of action
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Discipline of action

George Long · 1862· EN · Long

One man, when he has done a service to another, is ready to set it down to his account as a favour conferred. Another is not ready to do this, but still in his own mind he thinks of the man as his debtor, and he knows what he has done. A third in a manner does not even know what he has done, but he is like a vine which has produced grapes, and seeks for nothing more after it has once produced its proper fruit. MOTIFAs a horse when he has run, a dog when he has tracked the game, a bee when it has made the honey, so a man when he has done a good act, does not call out for others to come and see, but he goes on to another act, as a vine goes on to produce again the grapes in season.- Must a man then be one of these, who in a manner act thus without observing it?- Yes.- But this very thing is necessary, the EXERCISEobservation of what a man is doing: for, it may be said, it is characteristic of TERMthe social animal to perceive that he is working in a social manner, and indeed to wish that his social partner also should perceive it.- It is true what thou sayest, but thou dost not rightly understand what is now said: and for this reason thou wilt become one of those of whom I spoke before, for even they are misled by a certain show of reason. But if thou wilt choose to understand the meaning of what is said, do not fear that for this reason thou wilt omit any social act.

Original · ancient Greek

Ὁ μέν τίς ἐστιν, ὅταν τι δεξιὸν περί τινα πράξῃ, πρόχειρος καὶ λογίσασθαι αὐτῷ τὴν χάριν. ὁ δὲ πρὸς μὲν τοῦτο οὐ πρόχειρος, ἄλλως μέντοι παρ’ ἑαυτῷ ὡς περὶ χρεώστου διανοεῖται καὶ οἶδεν ὃ πεποίηκεν. ὁ δέ τις τρόπον τινὰ οὐδὲ οἶδεν ὃ πεποίηκεν, ἀλλὰ ὅμοιός ἐστιν ἀμπέλῳ βότρυν ἐνεγκούσῃ καὶ μηδὲν ἄλλο προσεπιζητούσῃ μετὰ τὸ ἅπαξ τὸν ἴδιον καρπὸν ἐνηνοχέναι.

ἵππος δραμών, κύων ἰχνεύσας, μέλισσα μέλι ποιήσασα, ἄνθρωπος δ’ εὖ ποιήσας οὐκ ἐπιβοᾶται, ἀλλὰ μεταβαίνει ἐφ’ ἕτερον, ὡς ἄμπελος ἐπὶ τὸ πάλιν ἐν τῇ ὥρᾳ τὸν βότρυν ἐνεγκεῖν. ἐν τούτοις οὗν δεῖ εἶναι τοῖς τρόπον τινὰ ἀπαρακολουθήτως αὐτὸ ποιοῦσι.— ναί ἀλλ’ αὐτὸ τοῦτο δεῖ παρακολουθεῖν· ἴδιον γάρ, φησί, τοῦ κοινωνικοῦ τὸ αἰσθάνεσθαι, ὅτι κοινωνικῶς ἐνεργεῖ, καὶ νὴ Δία βούλεσθαι καὶ τὸν κοινωνὸν αἰσθέσθαι.—ἀληθὲς μέν ἐστιν ὃ λέγεις, τὸ δὲ νῦν λεγόμενον παρεκδέχῃ· διὰ τοῦτο ἔσῃ εἶς ἐκείνων ὦν πρότερον ἐπεμνήσθην· καὶ γὰρ ἐκεῖνοι λογικῇ τινι πιθανότητι παράγονται. ἐὰν δὲ θελήσῃς συνεῖναι τί ποτέ ἐστι τὸ λεγόμενον, μὴ φοβοῦ, μὴ παρὰ τοῦτο παραλίπῃς τι ἔργον κοινωνικόν.

Leopold · Teubner 1908
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Commentary

Place in the book. The sixth passage is about the manner of doing good: not what to do, but how. The ideal is an unselfconscious virtue, "like the vine"; but Marcus at once raises an objection and works through it. The discipline of action (the social deed) with a layer of assent (self-awareness).

Three kinds of benefactor. An ascending scale: (1) the one who, having done a service, at once "enters it on the account" as a debt (λογίσασθαι τὴν χάριν); (2) the one who makes no open claim but inwardly counts the other his debtor (χρεώστης) and "knows what he has done"; (3) the one who "in a way does not even know what he has done" — like a vine that has borne its cluster and seeks nothing more, once it has yielded its own fruit (ἴδιος καρπός). The third is the ideal: good as natural fruit-bearing, without self-accounting.

The vine and the creatures. The horse has run, the dog has tracked, the bee has made honey; the man who has done good "does not call out" (οὐκ ἐπιβοᾶται) but passes on to the next — as the vine bears its cluster again in season. The image of MOTIFcreatures at their work: each fulfils its own and goes on. Cf. Med. 7.73: having done good and seeing it received, "do not look, as fools do, for a third thing — the reputation of a good deed, or a return."

The objection and παρακολούθησις. The interlocutor: but one must be aware! "It belongs to the TERMsocial being to perceive that it acts socially (κοινωνικῶς), and even to wish its partner (κοινωνός) to perceive it too." This appeals to EXERCISEself-tracking — the rational soul's power to notice its own acts. Marcus does not deny it, but: "you have not rightly understood what was said."

The resolution. The subtlety is that the awareness proper to a rational-social being is not the reckoning of merits (types 1–2) but the transparency of the act itself to itself; the demand for recognition is a "plausibility of reasoning" (λογικὴ πιθανότης) — the very thing that leads the first types astray. Rightly understood, "unselfconscious" fruit-bearing cancels neither awareness nor the doing of deeds: "have no fear that you will omit any social act" (ἔργον κοινωνικόν). The ideal is not unconsciousness but unself-regarding clarity.

Discipline and parallels. The principal discipline is action (the unself-regarding social deed); the secondary is assent (self-awareness, EXERCISEπαρακολούθησις). The image is MOTIFcreatures-at-work; the term is TERMkoinonikon. Parallel: Med. 7.73.

DisciplineDiscipline of action
Record added2026-07-11
Statuspublished