MED. 5.27Discipline of desire
George Long · 1862EN · Long

Live with the gods. And he does live with the gods who constantly shows to them that his own soul is DOGMAsatisfied with that which is assigned to him, and that it does all that TERMthe daemon wishes, which Zeus hath given to every man for his guardian and guide, TERMa portion of himself. And this is every man's TERMunderstanding and TERMreason.

Original · ancient Greek

ʽΣυζῆν θεοῖς.ʼ συζῇ δὲ θεοῖς ὁ συνεχῶς δεικνὺς αὐτοῖς τὴν ἑαυτοῦ ψυχὴν ἀρεσκομένην μὲν τοῖς ἀπονεμομένοις, ποιοῦσαν δὲ ὅσα βούλεται ὁ δαίμων, ὃν ἑκάστῳ προστάτην καὶ ἡγεμόνα ὁ Ζεὺς ἔδωκεν, ἀπόσπασμα ἑαυτοῦ. οὗτος δέ ἐστιν ὁ ἑκάστου νοῦς καὶ λόγος.

Leopold · Teubner 1908
Commentary

Place in the book. "Live with the gods" — a formula of the discipline of desire (contentment with one's lot) plus the doctrine of the daimon as the true "I."

Living with the gods = being content with one's lot. συζῆν θεοῖς is no cultic act but an inner state: continually to show the gods a soul "content with what is assigned" (DOGMAἀρεσκομένην τοῖς ἀπονεμομένοις — the acceptance of fate), and doing what the daimon wills. The measure of communion with the gods is not sacrifice but agreement with what the common order gives.

The daimon = Zeus's gift = the "I." The TERMδαίμων that Zeus gave each as "guardian and guide" (προστάτης καὶ ἡγεμών) is a TERMfragment torn off from god himself (ἀπόσπασμα ἑαυτοῦ). And this daimon is each one's "TERMmind and TERMreason": that is, DOGMAthe god within = the ruling part = the true "I". To serve the daimon (cf. 02-13: keep it pure from passion, rashness, and discontent) just is to live with the gods.

Zeus. The Stoic Zeus is not the Olympian of myth but a name for the cosmic god-Logos governing the Whole; "to give each a daimon" is to lodge in each a particle of his own reason. So theology (DOGMAprovidence) and psychology (the ruling part) meet at a single point: my rational core is of one kind with the divine.

Discipline and parallels. The principal discipline is desire (contentment with one's lot, communion with the gods); the secondary is assent (the daimon as rightly-judging mind). Parallels: 02-13 (ὁ ἔνδον δαίμων; the service of it), Med. 3.4; 3.16 (philosophy = to keep the daimon unspoiled); 02-01 (θεία ἀπομοῖρα, kinship by reason); Epictetus Disc. 1.14.

DisciplineDiscipline of desire
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Discipline of desire

Original · ancient Greek

ʽΣυζῆν θεοῖς.ʼ συζῇ δὲ θεοῖς ὁ συνεχῶς δεικνὺς αὐτοῖς τὴν ἑαυτοῦ ψυχὴν ἀρεσκομένην μὲν τοῖς ἀπονεμομένοις, ποιοῦσαν δὲ ὅσα βούλεται ὁ δαίμων, ὃν ἑκάστῳ προστάτην καὶ ἡγεμόνα ὁ Ζεὺς ἔδωκεν, ἀπόσπασμα ἑαυτοῦ. οὗτος δέ ἐστιν ὁ ἑκάστου νοῦς καὶ λόγος.

Leopold · Teubner 1908
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Commentary

Place in the book. "Live with the gods" — a formula of the discipline of desire (contentment with one's lot) plus the doctrine of the daimon as the true "I."

Living with the gods = being content with one's lot. συζῆν θεοῖς is no cultic act but an inner state: continually to show the gods a soul "content with what is assigned" (DOGMAἀρεσκομένην τοῖς ἀπονεμομένοις — the acceptance of fate), and doing what the daimon wills. The measure of communion with the gods is not sacrifice but agreement with what the common order gives.

The daimon = Zeus's gift = the "I." The TERMδαίμων that Zeus gave each as "guardian and guide" (προστάτης καὶ ἡγεμών) is a TERMfragment torn off from god himself (ἀπόσπασμα ἑαυτοῦ). And this daimon is each one's "TERMmind and TERMreason": that is, DOGMAthe god within = the ruling part = the true "I". To serve the daimon (cf. 02-13: keep it pure from passion, rashness, and discontent) just is to live with the gods.

Zeus. The Stoic Zeus is not the Olympian of myth but a name for the cosmic god-Logos governing the Whole; "to give each a daimon" is to lodge in each a particle of his own reason. So theology (DOGMAprovidence) and psychology (the ruling part) meet at a single point: my rational core is of one kind with the divine.

Discipline and parallels. The principal discipline is desire (contentment with one's lot, communion with the gods); the secondary is assent (the daimon as rightly-judging mind). Parallels: 02-13 (ὁ ἔνδον δαίμων; the service of it), Med. 3.4; 3.16 (philosophy = to keep the daimon unspoiled); 02-01 (θεία ἀπομοῖρα, kinship by reason); Epictetus Disc. 1.14.

DisciplineDiscipline of desire
Record added2026-06-26
Statuspublished