MED. 6.16Discipline of desire
George Long · 1862EN · Long

Neither is transpiration, as in plants, a thing to be valued, nor respiration, as in domesticated animals and wild beasts, nor the TERMreceiving of impressions by the appearances of things, nor being MOTIFmoved by desires as puppets by strings, nor assembling in herds, nor being nourished by food; for this is just like the act of separating and parting with the useless part of our food. What then is TERMworth being valued? To be received with clapping of hands? No. Neither must we value the clapping of tongues, for the praise which comes from the many is a clapping of tongues. Suppose then that thou hast given up this worthless thing called fame, what remains that is worth valuing? This in my opinion, to move thyself and to restrain thyself in conformity to thy proper constitution, to which end both all employments and arts lead. For every art aims at this, that the thing which has been made should be adapted to the work for which it has been made; and both the vine-planter who looks after the vine, and the horse-breaker, and he who trains the dog, seek this end. But the education and the teaching of youth aim at something. In this then is the value of the education and the teaching. And if this is well, thou wilt not seek anything else. Wilt thou not cease to value many other things too? Then thou wilt be neither free, nor sufficient for thy own happiness, nor TERMwithout passion. For of necessity thou must be envious, jealous, and suspicious of those who can take away those things, and plot against those who have that which is valued by thee. Of necessity a man must be altogether in a state of perturbation who wants any of these things; and besides, he must often find fault with the gods. But to TERMreverence and honour thy own mind will make thee content with thyself, and in harmony with society, and in agreement with the gods, that is, praising all that they give and have ordered.

Original · ancient Greek

Οὔτε τὸ διαπνεῖσθαι ὡς τὰ φυτὰ τίμιον οὔτε τὸ ἀναπνεῖν ὡς τὰ βοσκήματα καὶ τὰ θηρία οὔτε τὸ τυποῦσθαι κατὰ φαντασίαν οὔτε τὸ νευροσπαστεῖσθαι καθ’ ὁρμὴν οὔτε τὸ συναγελάζεσθαι οὔτε τὸ τρέφεσθαι· τοῦτο γὰρ ὅμοιον τῷ ἀποκρίνειν τὰ περιττώματα τῆς τροφῆς.

τί οὖν τίμιον; τὸ κροτεῖσθαι; οὐχί. οὐκοῦν οὐδὲ τὸ ὑπὸ γλωσσῶν κροτεῖσθαι· αἱ γὰρ παρὰ τῶν πολλῶν εὐφημίαι κρότος γλωσσῶν. ἀφῆκας οὖν καὶ τὸ δοξάριον· τί καταλείπεται τίμιον; δοκῶ μὲν τὸ κατὰ τὴν ἰδίαν κατασκευὴν κινεῖσθαι καὶ ἴσχεσθαι, ἐφ’ ὅ καὶ αἱ ἐπιμέλειαι ἄγουσι καὶ αἱ τέχναι.

ἥ τε γὰρ τέχνη πᾶσα τούτου στοχάζεται, ἵνα τὸ κατασκευασθὲν ἐπιτηδείως ἔχῃ πρὸς τὸ ἔργον πρὸς ὅ κατεσκεύασται· ὅ τε φυτουργὸς καὶ ὁ ἐπιμελούμενος τῆς ἀμπέλου, καὶ ὁ πωλοδάμνης καὶ ὁ τοῦ κυνὸς ἐπιμελούμενος τοῦτο ζητεῖ. αἱ δὲ παιδαγωγίαι, αἱ δὲ διδασκαλίαι ἐπὶ τί σπεύδουσιν;

ὧδε οὖν τὸ τίμιον καὶ τοῦτο μὲν ἂν εὖ ἔχῃ, οὐδὲν τῶν ἄλλων περιποιήσεις σεαυτῷ. οὐ παύσῃ καὶ ἄλλα πολλὰ τιμῶν; οὔτ’ οὖν ἐλεύθερος ἔσῃ οὔτε αὐτάρκης οὔτε ἀπαθής· ἀνάγκη γὰρ φθονεῖν, ζηλοτυπεῖν, ὑφορᾶσθαι τοὺς ἀφελέσθαι ἐκεῖνα δυναμένους, ἐπιβουλεύειν τοῖς ἔχουσι τὸ τιμώμενον ὑπὸ σοῦ. ὅλως πεφύρθαι ἀνάγκη τὸν ἐκείνων τινὸς ἐνδεῆ, προσέτι δὲ πολλὰ καὶ τοῖς θεοῖς μέμφεσθαι.

ἡ δὲ τῆς ἰδίας διανοίας αἰδὼς καὶ τιμὴ σεαυτῷ τε ἀρεστόν σε ποιήσει καὶ τοῖς κοινωνοῖς εὐάρμοστον καὶ τοῖς θεοῖς σύμφωνον, τουτέστιν ἐπαινοῦντα ὅσα ἐκεῖνοι διανέμουσι καὶ διατετάχασιν.

Leopold · Teubner 1908
Commentary

Genre and place in the book. An extended treatment of the question "what is worth valuing (τίμιον)?" by elimination: the supposed values are run through and discarded until one true value remains. The principal discipline is desire (the right estimate of what deserves pursuit); the sustaining one is assent (reverence for one's own mind). Kin to 06-14 (the hierarchy of value).

Cutting away the false values. Not valuable is what a human shares with the lower grades of life: breathing (as in plants and animals), TERMthe receiving of impressions, and movement by TERMimpulse — "MOTIFtwitched like a marionette on strings" (νευροσπαστεῖσθαι) — herding, feeding (this last "no better than voiding the residue of food"). Nor is fame valuable: applause is only a "clapping of tongues" (κρότος γλωσσῶν), the acclaim of the crowd. Let the "scrap of glory" (δοξάριον, dismissive) go too.

What remains valuable. The one valuable thing is "to move and to hold oneself still according to one's own constitution (κατὰ τὴν ἰδίαν κατασκευήν)" — the end toward which all arts and cares lead. An argument from function: as every art fits its product to its work (the vine-dresser the vine, the horse-breaker the horse, the trainer the dog), and education the human being, so the good of a human being lies in performing its own function, the activity of the rational nature.

The cost of false valuations. If you value much else, "you will be neither free (ἐλεύθερος), nor self-sufficient (αὐτάρκης), nor TERMfree of passion": envy, jealousy, suspicion, plots against those who hold the desired thing, turmoil, and reproach of the gods necessarily follow. Here the doctrine of the DOGMAsufficiency of virtue is given by contraries: to fasten the good onto the external destroys freedom, self-sufficiency, and ἀπάθεια alike.

Reverence for one's own mind. The resolution: "TERMreverence (αἰδώς) and honour (τιμή) for one's own mind (διάνοια)" makes you pleasing to yourself, attuned to your kind (κοινωνοῖς), and in accord with the gods — "praising all that they assign and ordain" (the acceptance of providence). To value one's own mind = DOGMAto identify oneself with the ruling part; from this come at once inner freedom, social harmony, and agreement with the Whole.

Disciplines and parallels. The principal one is desire (what to value); the secondary is assent (reverence for one's own mind). Parallels: 06-14 (the hierarchy of value — its summit in the rational-social soul); 06-08 (the ruling part determines itself); 05-16 (the good of a rational being is fellowship); the MOTIFmarionette image — Med. 2.2; 3.16; 7.3; 12.19. The doctrines — DOGMAthe sufficiency of virtue, DOGMAthe self as the ruling part.

DisciplineDiscipline of desire
Record added2026-07-16
Statuspublished
Discipline of desire

George Long · 1862· EN · Long

Neither is transpiration, as in plants, a thing to be valued, nor respiration, as in domesticated animals and wild beasts, nor the TERMreceiving of impressions by the appearances of things, nor being MOTIFmoved by desires as puppets by strings, nor assembling in herds, nor being nourished by food; for this is just like the act of separating and parting with the useless part of our food. What then is TERMworth being valued? To be received with clapping of hands? No. Neither must we value the clapping of tongues, for the praise which comes from the many is a clapping of tongues. Suppose then that thou hast given up this worthless thing called fame, what remains that is worth valuing? This in my opinion, to move thyself and to restrain thyself in conformity to thy proper constitution, to which end both all employments and arts lead. For every art aims at this, that the thing which has been made should be adapted to the work for which it has been made; and both the vine-planter who looks after the vine, and the horse-breaker, and he who trains the dog, seek this end. But the education and the teaching of youth aim at something. In this then is the value of the education and the teaching. And if this is well, thou wilt not seek anything else. Wilt thou not cease to value many other things too? Then thou wilt be neither free, nor sufficient for thy own happiness, nor TERMwithout passion. For of necessity thou must be envious, jealous, and suspicious of those who can take away those things, and plot against those who have that which is valued by thee. Of necessity a man must be altogether in a state of perturbation who wants any of these things; and besides, he must often find fault with the gods. But to TERMreverence and honour thy own mind will make thee content with thyself, and in harmony with society, and in agreement with the gods, that is, praising all that they give and have ordered.

Original · ancient Greek

Οὔτε τὸ διαπνεῖσθαι ὡς τὰ φυτὰ τίμιον οὔτε τὸ ἀναπνεῖν ὡς τὰ βοσκήματα καὶ τὰ θηρία οὔτε τὸ τυποῦσθαι κατὰ φαντασίαν οὔτε τὸ νευροσπαστεῖσθαι καθ’ ὁρμὴν οὔτε τὸ συναγελάζεσθαι οὔτε τὸ τρέφεσθαι· τοῦτο γὰρ ὅμοιον τῷ ἀποκρίνειν τὰ περιττώματα τῆς τροφῆς.

τί οὖν τίμιον; τὸ κροτεῖσθαι; οὐχί. οὐκοῦν οὐδὲ τὸ ὑπὸ γλωσσῶν κροτεῖσθαι· αἱ γὰρ παρὰ τῶν πολλῶν εὐφημίαι κρότος γλωσσῶν. ἀφῆκας οὖν καὶ τὸ δοξάριον· τί καταλείπεται τίμιον; δοκῶ μὲν τὸ κατὰ τὴν ἰδίαν κατασκευὴν κινεῖσθαι καὶ ἴσχεσθαι, ἐφ’ ὅ καὶ αἱ ἐπιμέλειαι ἄγουσι καὶ αἱ τέχναι.

ἥ τε γὰρ τέχνη πᾶσα τούτου στοχάζεται, ἵνα τὸ κατασκευασθὲν ἐπιτηδείως ἔχῃ πρὸς τὸ ἔργον πρὸς ὅ κατεσκεύασται· ὅ τε φυτουργὸς καὶ ὁ ἐπιμελούμενος τῆς ἀμπέλου, καὶ ὁ πωλοδάμνης καὶ ὁ τοῦ κυνὸς ἐπιμελούμενος τοῦτο ζητεῖ. αἱ δὲ παιδαγωγίαι, αἱ δὲ διδασκαλίαι ἐπὶ τί σπεύδουσιν;

ὧδε οὖν τὸ τίμιον καὶ τοῦτο μὲν ἂν εὖ ἔχῃ, οὐδὲν τῶν ἄλλων περιποιήσεις σεαυτῷ. οὐ παύσῃ καὶ ἄλλα πολλὰ τιμῶν; οὔτ’ οὖν ἐλεύθερος ἔσῃ οὔτε αὐτάρκης οὔτε ἀπαθής· ἀνάγκη γὰρ φθονεῖν, ζηλοτυπεῖν, ὑφορᾶσθαι τοὺς ἀφελέσθαι ἐκεῖνα δυναμένους, ἐπιβουλεύειν τοῖς ἔχουσι τὸ τιμώμενον ὑπὸ σοῦ. ὅλως πεφύρθαι ἀνάγκη τὸν ἐκείνων τινὸς ἐνδεῆ, προσέτι δὲ πολλὰ καὶ τοῖς θεοῖς μέμφεσθαι.

ἡ δὲ τῆς ἰδίας διανοίας αἰδὼς καὶ τιμὴ σεαυτῷ τε ἀρεστόν σε ποιήσει καὶ τοῖς κοινωνοῖς εὐάρμοστον καὶ τοῖς θεοῖς σύμφωνον, τουτέστιν ἐπαινοῦντα ὅσα ἐκεῖνοι διανέμουσι καὶ διατετάχασιν.

Leopold · Teubner 1908
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Commentary

Genre and place in the book. An extended treatment of the question "what is worth valuing (τίμιον)?" by elimination: the supposed values are run through and discarded until one true value remains. The principal discipline is desire (the right estimate of what deserves pursuit); the sustaining one is assent (reverence for one's own mind). Kin to 06-14 (the hierarchy of value).

Cutting away the false values. Not valuable is what a human shares with the lower grades of life: breathing (as in plants and animals), TERMthe receiving of impressions, and movement by TERMimpulse — "MOTIFtwitched like a marionette on strings" (νευροσπαστεῖσθαι) — herding, feeding (this last "no better than voiding the residue of food"). Nor is fame valuable: applause is only a "clapping of tongues" (κρότος γλωσσῶν), the acclaim of the crowd. Let the "scrap of glory" (δοξάριον, dismissive) go too.

What remains valuable. The one valuable thing is "to move and to hold oneself still according to one's own constitution (κατὰ τὴν ἰδίαν κατασκευήν)" — the end toward which all arts and cares lead. An argument from function: as every art fits its product to its work (the vine-dresser the vine, the horse-breaker the horse, the trainer the dog), and education the human being, so the good of a human being lies in performing its own function, the activity of the rational nature.

The cost of false valuations. If you value much else, "you will be neither free (ἐλεύθερος), nor self-sufficient (αὐτάρκης), nor TERMfree of passion": envy, jealousy, suspicion, plots against those who hold the desired thing, turmoil, and reproach of the gods necessarily follow. Here the doctrine of the DOGMAsufficiency of virtue is given by contraries: to fasten the good onto the external destroys freedom, self-sufficiency, and ἀπάθεια alike.

Reverence for one's own mind. The resolution: "TERMreverence (αἰδώς) and honour (τιμή) for one's own mind (διάνοια)" makes you pleasing to yourself, attuned to your kind (κοινωνοῖς), and in accord with the gods — "praising all that they assign and ordain" (the acceptance of providence). To value one's own mind = DOGMAto identify oneself with the ruling part; from this come at once inner freedom, social harmony, and agreement with the Whole.

Disciplines and parallels. The principal one is desire (what to value); the secondary is assent (reverence for one's own mind). Parallels: 06-14 (the hierarchy of value — its summit in the rational-social soul); 06-08 (the ruling part determines itself); 05-16 (the good of a rational being is fellowship); the MOTIFmarionette image — Med. 2.2; 3.16; 7.3; 12.19. The doctrines — DOGMAthe sufficiency of virtue, DOGMAthe self as the ruling part.

DisciplineDiscipline of desire
Record added2026-07-16
Statuspublished