MED. 7.48Discipline of desire
George Long · 1862EN · Long

This is a fine saying of PERSONPlato: That he who is discoursing about men EXERCISEshould look also at earthly things as if he viewed them from some higher place; should look at them in their assemblies, armies, agricultural labors, marriages, treaties, births, deaths, noise of the courts of justice, desert places, various nations of barbarians, feasts, lamentations, markets, DOGMAa mixture of all things and an orderly combination of contraries.

Original · ancient Greek

Καλὸν τὸ τοῦ Πλάτωνος. καὶ δὴ περὶ ἀνθρώπων τοὺς λόγους ποιούμενον ἐπισκοπεῖν δεῖ καὶ τὰ ἐπίγεια ὥσπερ ποθὲν ἄνωθεν κάτω· ἀγέλας, στρατεύματα, γεώργια, γάμους, διαλύσεις, γενέσεις, θανάτους, δικαστηρίων θόρυβον, ἐρήμους χώρας, βαρβάρων ἔθνη ποικίλα, ἑορτάς, θρήνους, ἀγοράς, τὸ παμμιγὲς καὶ τὸ ἐκ τῶν ἐναντίων συγκοσμούμενον.

Leopold · Teubner 1908
Commentary

The most famous "view from above." The classic locus of the exercise: whoever discourses about human beings should look at earthly things "as if from somewhere above, looking down" (ὥσπερ ποθὲν ἄνωθεν κάτω). Then a vertiginous catalogue of the whole human scene at once: herds, armies, ploughlands, marriages, divorces, births, deaths, the din of the courts, deserts, the motley tribes of barbarians, festivals, laments, markets. From that height private dramas lose their singularity and compose one variegated pattern. Marcus ascribes the saying directly to PERSONPlato (Καλὸν τὸ τοῦ Πλάτωνος) — but it is not in the extant dialogues: probably a paraphrase or a lost source; in spirit the Republic 486a (7.35) and the Theaetetus 173e–174a (the philosopher surveying all from above). Marcus's own nearest applications are 9.30 ("look from above"), 12.24, and the paired 7.47 (running with the stars).

Order out of opposites. The catalogue closes with a formula not of aversion but of reconciliation: τὸ παμμιγές — "the all-mingled" — turns out to be DOGMA"ordered together out of contraries" (ἐκ τῶν ἐναντίων συγκοσμούμενον). The Heraclitean-Stoic move: births and deaths, festivals and laments are no chaos but a joint-order (06-38: all is "interwoven"; 7.9: the hymn of the one). The view from above does not only diminish — it also orders: what up close seemed discord reads, from afar, as a pattern in which the contraries hold one another. The discipline is desire.

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Discipline of desire

Original · ancient Greek

Καλὸν τὸ τοῦ Πλάτωνος. καὶ δὴ περὶ ἀνθρώπων τοὺς λόγους ποιούμενον ἐπισκοπεῖν δεῖ καὶ τὰ ἐπίγεια ὥσπερ ποθὲν ἄνωθεν κάτω· ἀγέλας, στρατεύματα, γεώργια, γάμους, διαλύσεις, γενέσεις, θανάτους, δικαστηρίων θόρυβον, ἐρήμους χώρας, βαρβάρων ἔθνη ποικίλα, ἑορτάς, θρήνους, ἀγοράς, τὸ παμμιγὲς καὶ τὸ ἐκ τῶν ἐναντίων συγκοσμούμενον.

Leopold · Teubner 1908
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Commentary

The most famous "view from above." The classic locus of the exercise: whoever discourses about human beings should look at earthly things "as if from somewhere above, looking down" (ὥσπερ ποθὲν ἄνωθεν κάτω). Then a vertiginous catalogue of the whole human scene at once: herds, armies, ploughlands, marriages, divorces, births, deaths, the din of the courts, deserts, the motley tribes of barbarians, festivals, laments, markets. From that height private dramas lose their singularity and compose one variegated pattern. Marcus ascribes the saying directly to PERSONPlato (Καλὸν τὸ τοῦ Πλάτωνος) — but it is not in the extant dialogues: probably a paraphrase or a lost source; in spirit the Republic 486a (7.35) and the Theaetetus 173e–174a (the philosopher surveying all from above). Marcus's own nearest applications are 9.30 ("look from above"), 12.24, and the paired 7.47 (running with the stars).

Order out of opposites. The catalogue closes with a formula not of aversion but of reconciliation: τὸ παμμιγές — "the all-mingled" — turns out to be DOGMA"ordered together out of contraries" (ἐκ τῶν ἐναντίων συγκοσμούμενον). The Heraclitean-Stoic move: births and deaths, festivals and laments are no chaos but a joint-order (06-38: all is "interwoven"; 7.9: the hymn of the one). The view from above does not only diminish — it also orders: what up close seemed discord reads, from afar, as a pattern in which the contraries hold one another. The discipline is desire.

DisciplineDiscipline of desire
Record added2026-07-16
Statuspublished