MED. 7.33Discipline of desire
George Long · 1862EN · Long

About pain: the pain which is intolerable carries us off; but that which lasts a long time is tolerable; and the mind maintains TERMits own tranquillity by retiring into itself, and TERMthe ruling faculty is not made worse. DOGMABut the parts which are harmed by pain, let them, if they can, give their opinion about it.

Original · ancient Greek

Περὶ πόνου· τὸ μὲν ἀφόρητον ἐξάγει, τὸ δὲ χρονίζον φορητόν· καὶ ἡ διάνοια τὴν ἑαυτῆς γαλήνην κατὰ ἀπόληψιν διατηρεῖ καὶ οὐ χεῖρον τὸ ἡγεμονικὸν γέγονε, τὰ δὲ κακούμενα μέρη ὑπὸ τοῦ πόνου, εἴ τι δύναται, περὶ αὐτοῦ ἀποφηνάσθω.

Leopold · Teubner 1908
Commentary

The Epicurean anodyne. The second memorandum of the «Περὶ …» series. The opening maxim is borrowed straight from Epicurus (KD 4; Marcus cites him by name at 7.64): pain that is unbearable "carries off" (ἐξάγει — kills: hence it will soon be over), pain that lasts is by that very fact bearable (φορητόν). The dilemma shuts both leaves of the fear: the intense is short, the long is manageable. The Stoic calmly takes the best instrument from a rival school — as in 7.32, where any metaphysics will do: therapy outranks guild loyalty.

Isolation and demarcation. The second half is properly Stoic mechanics: the mind "keeps TERMits own calm by cutting off" (κατὰ ἀπόληψιν — "severance, isolation": the pain is fenced off, as in 5.26 — περιοριζέτω), and TERMthe ruling part "has become no worse" (οὐ χεῖρον γέγονε — the same invulnerability formula as in 7.22). The close repeats the division of departments of 7.16: the suffering parts are granted the right "to make their declaration, if they can" (ἀποφηνάσθω — almost minute-taking language) — the body gets the word, the mind the verdict. A textual detail: our source reads ἀπόληψιν ("isolation"; so Long — "by retiring into itself"), while Rogovin translated the reading ὑπόληψιν — «силою убеждения»; doctrinally the two branches converge: the soul's peace is its own manufacture. The governing discipline is desire; the sustaining one, assent.

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Discipline of desire

Original · ancient Greek

Περὶ πόνου· τὸ μὲν ἀφόρητον ἐξάγει, τὸ δὲ χρονίζον φορητόν· καὶ ἡ διάνοια τὴν ἑαυτῆς γαλήνην κατὰ ἀπόληψιν διατηρεῖ καὶ οὐ χεῖρον τὸ ἡγεμονικὸν γέγονε, τὰ δὲ κακούμενα μέρη ὑπὸ τοῦ πόνου, εἴ τι δύναται, περὶ αὐτοῦ ἀποφηνάσθω.

Leopold · Teubner 1908
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Commentary

The Epicurean anodyne. The second memorandum of the «Περὶ …» series. The opening maxim is borrowed straight from Epicurus (KD 4; Marcus cites him by name at 7.64): pain that is unbearable "carries off" (ἐξάγει — kills: hence it will soon be over), pain that lasts is by that very fact bearable (φορητόν). The dilemma shuts both leaves of the fear: the intense is short, the long is manageable. The Stoic calmly takes the best instrument from a rival school — as in 7.32, where any metaphysics will do: therapy outranks guild loyalty.

Isolation and demarcation. The second half is properly Stoic mechanics: the mind "keeps TERMits own calm by cutting off" (κατὰ ἀπόληψιν — "severance, isolation": the pain is fenced off, as in 5.26 — περιοριζέτω), and TERMthe ruling part "has become no worse" (οὐ χεῖρον γέγονε — the same invulnerability formula as in 7.22). The close repeats the division of departments of 7.16: the suffering parts are granted the right "to make their declaration, if they can" (ἀποφηνάσθω — almost minute-taking language) — the body gets the word, the mind the verdict. A textual detail: our source reads ἀπόληψιν ("isolation"; so Long — "by retiring into itself"), while Rogovin translated the reading ὑπόληψιν — «силою убеждения»; doctrinally the two branches converge: the soul's peace is its own manufacture. The governing discipline is desire; the sustaining one, assent.

DisciplineDiscipline of desire
Record added2026-07-16
Statuspublished