MED. 9.17Discipline of desire
George Long · 1862EN · Long

For the stone which has been thrown up it is no TERMevil to come down, nor indeed any TERMgood to have been carried up.

Original · ancient Greek

Τῷ ἀναρριφέντι λίθῳ οὐδὲν κακὸν τὸ κατενεχθῆναι οὐδὲ ἀγαθὸν τὸ ἀνενεχθῆναι.

Leopold · Teubner 1908
Commentary

The stone: up and down are indifferent. The image of a thrown stone: rising and falling (ἀνενεχθῆναι/κατενεχθῆναι) are to it neither TERMgood nor TERMevil, but simply its natural motion. So too the external turns (success/failure, life/death) are indifferent in themselves: value lies not in what is undergone but in action (cf. 9.16). A parallel to the image of the ball at 8.20: the descent is no evil to the thing, but a planned and equal phase.

The argument from the converse. If the stone's rising is not its "good," then its falling is not its "evil": both lie outside its ἀρετή. Apply it to yourself, and the fear of "falling" (illness, disgrace, death) loses its footing. The governing discipline is desire (evenness toward the indifferent).

DisciplineDiscipline of desire
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Discipline of desire

George Long · 1862· EN · Long

For the stone which has been thrown up it is no TERMevil to come down, nor indeed any TERMgood to have been carried up.

Original · ancient Greek

Τῷ ἀναρριφέντι λίθῳ οὐδὲν κακὸν τὸ κατενεχθῆναι οὐδὲ ἀγαθὸν τὸ ἀνενεχθῆναι.

Leopold · Teubner 1908
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Commentary

The stone: up and down are indifferent. The image of a thrown stone: rising and falling (ἀνενεχθῆναι/κατενεχθῆναι) are to it neither TERMgood nor TERMevil, but simply its natural motion. So too the external turns (success/failure, life/death) are indifferent in themselves: value lies not in what is undergone but in action (cf. 9.16). A parallel to the image of the ball at 8.20: the descent is no evil to the thing, but a planned and equal phase.

The argument from the converse. If the stone's rising is not its "good," then its falling is not its "evil": both lie outside its ἀρετή. Apply it to yourself, and the fear of "falling" (illness, disgrace, death) loses its footing. The governing discipline is desire (evenness toward the indifferent).

DisciplineDiscipline of desire
Record added2026-07-16
Statuspublished