MED. 9.30Discipline of desire
George Long · 1862EN · Long

EXERCISELook down from above on the countless herds of men and their countless solemnities, and the infinitely varied voyagings in storms and calms, and the differences among those who are born, who live together, and die. And consider, too, the life lived by others in olden time, and the life of those who will live after thee, and the life now lived among barbarous nations, and how many know not even thy name, and how many will soon forget it, and how they who perhaps now are praising thee will very soon blame thee, and that DOGMAneither a posthumous name is of any value, nor reputation, nor anything else.

Original · ancient Greek

Ἄνωθεν ἐπιθεωρεῖν ἀγέλας μυρίας καὶ τελετὰς μυρίας καὶ πλοῦν παντοῖον ἐν χειμῶσι καὶ γαλήναις καὶ διαφορὰς γινομένων, συγγινομένων, ἀπογινομένων. ἐπινόει δὲ καὶ τὸν ὑπ’ ἄλλων πάλαι βεβιωμένον βίον καὶ τὸν μετὰ σὲ βιωθησόμενον καὶ τὸν νῦν ἐν τοῖς βαρβάροις ἔθνεσι βιούμενον· καὶ ὅσοι μὲν οὐδὲ ὄνομά σου γινώσκουσιν, ὅσοι δὲ τάχιστα ἐπιλήσονται, ὅσοι δ’ ἐπαινοῦντες ἴσως νῦν σε τάχιστα ψέξουσι· καὶ ὡς οὔτε ἡ μνήμη ἀξιόλογόν γε οὔτε ἡ δόξα οὔτε ἄλλο τι τὸ σύμπαν.

Leopold · Teubner 1908
Commentary

The view from above. The classic formula of the exercise EXERCISE"to survey from above" (ἄνωθεν ἐπιθεωρεῖν): from on high — the countless herds (ἀγέλαι), rites (τελεταί), ships in storm and calm, and the procession of "things coming to be, being together, passing away" (γινομένων, συγγινομένων, ἀπογινομένων). Spatial distance shrinks the human bustle to an anthill (cf. 7.48; 7.3).

And the distance of time. To space is added history: the lives of those before, those to come, the barbarians now; how many do not know your name, will soon forget it, and how the ones praising you will soon blame you. The conclusion — DOGMA"neither memory, nor fame, nor anything else is of any account" (οὐκ ἀξιόλογον) (cf. 4.33; 2.17). The double optics — across space and through time — deflates the craving for recognition. The governing discipline is desire.

DisciplineDiscipline of desire
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Discipline of desire

George Long · 1862· EN · Long

EXERCISELook down from above on the countless herds of men and their countless solemnities, and the infinitely varied voyagings in storms and calms, and the differences among those who are born, who live together, and die. And consider, too, the life lived by others in olden time, and the life of those who will live after thee, and the life now lived among barbarous nations, and how many know not even thy name, and how many will soon forget it, and how they who perhaps now are praising thee will very soon blame thee, and that DOGMAneither a posthumous name is of any value, nor reputation, nor anything else.

Original · ancient Greek

Ἄνωθεν ἐπιθεωρεῖν ἀγέλας μυρίας καὶ τελετὰς μυρίας καὶ πλοῦν παντοῖον ἐν χειμῶσι καὶ γαλήναις καὶ διαφορὰς γινομένων, συγγινομένων, ἀπογινομένων. ἐπινόει δὲ καὶ τὸν ὑπ’ ἄλλων πάλαι βεβιωμένον βίον καὶ τὸν μετὰ σὲ βιωθησόμενον καὶ τὸν νῦν ἐν τοῖς βαρβάροις ἔθνεσι βιούμενον· καὶ ὅσοι μὲν οὐδὲ ὄνομά σου γινώσκουσιν, ὅσοι δὲ τάχιστα ἐπιλήσονται, ὅσοι δ’ ἐπαινοῦντες ἴσως νῦν σε τάχιστα ψέξουσι· καὶ ὡς οὔτε ἡ μνήμη ἀξιόλογόν γε οὔτε ἡ δόξα οὔτε ἄλλο τι τὸ σύμπαν.

Leopold · Teubner 1908
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Commentary

The view from above. The classic formula of the exercise EXERCISE"to survey from above" (ἄνωθεν ἐπιθεωρεῖν): from on high — the countless herds (ἀγέλαι), rites (τελεταί), ships in storm and calm, and the procession of "things coming to be, being together, passing away" (γινομένων, συγγινομένων, ἀπογινομένων). Spatial distance shrinks the human bustle to an anthill (cf. 7.48; 7.3).

And the distance of time. To space is added history: the lives of those before, those to come, the barbarians now; how many do not know your name, will soon forget it, and how the ones praising you will soon blame you. The conclusion — DOGMA"neither memory, nor fame, nor anything else is of any account" (οὐκ ἀξιόλογον) (cf. 4.33; 2.17). The double optics — across space and through time — deflates the craving for recognition. The governing discipline is desire.

DisciplineDiscipline of desire
Record added2026-07-16
Statuspublished