MED. 8.14Discipline of assent
George Long · 1862EN · Long

Whatever man thou meetest with, immediately say to thyself: What opinions has this man about TERMgood and TERMbad? For if with respect to TERMpleasure and pain and the causes of each, and with respect to fame and ignominy, death and life, he has such and such opinions, it will seem nothing wonderful or strange to me, if he does such and such things; and I shall bear in mind that he is compelled to do so.

Original · ancient Greek

Ὧι ἂν ἐντυγχάνῃς, εὐθὺς σαυτῷ πρόλεγε· οὗτος τίνα δόγματα ἔχει περὶ ἀγαθῶν καὶ κακῶν; εἰ γὰρ περὶ ἡδονῆς καὶ πόνου καὶ τῶν ποιητικῶν ἑκατέρου καὶ περὶ δόξης, ἀδοξίας, θανάτου, ζωῆς, τοιάδε τινὰ δόγματα ἔχει, οὐδὲν θαυμαστὸν ἢ ξένον μοι δόξει, ἐὰν τάδε τινὰ ποιῇ, καὶ μεμνήσομαι ὅτι ἀναγκάζεται οὕτως ποιεῖν.

Leopold · Teubner 1908
Commentary

Diagnosis by doctrines. A rule for meeting people: not to judge the act at once, but "immediately to say to yourself" (εὐθὺς σαυτῷ πρόλεγε) — what doctrines (δόγματα) does he hold about TERMgood and TERMbad? Behavior is deduced from convictions: if a person takes TERMpleasure for a good and pain, disrepute, and death for evils, then his acts follow of necessity from that scale. Then "nothing will be surprising" (οὐδὲν θαυμαστόν) — astonishment and anger arise only from a failure to grasp the cause.

"He is compelled" (ἀναγκάζεται). The key move is a determinism by way of moral psychology: a person "is compelled to act so" by his false doctrines. This is the Stoic version of the Socratic "no one errs willingly": a fault is ignorance of the true good (cf. 8.59: either teach them or bear with them; 7.22: they err through ignorance and against their will; 2.1: all this comes from ignorance of good and evil, and the wrongdoer is my kin). The therapeutic conclusion is not exculpation but the removal of personal offense: another's fault is impersonal, like the juice in a fig-tree (4.6; cf. the fig-tree bearing figs, 8.15). The governing discipline is assent (to grasp the cause of the act), the sustaining one action (how to bear oneself toward people).

DisciplineDiscipline of assent
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Discipline of assent

George Long · 1862· EN · Long

Whatever man thou meetest with, immediately say to thyself: What opinions has this man about TERMgood and TERMbad? For if with respect to TERMpleasure and pain and the causes of each, and with respect to fame and ignominy, death and life, he has such and such opinions, it will seem nothing wonderful or strange to me, if he does such and such things; and I shall bear in mind that he is compelled to do so.

Original · ancient Greek

Ὧι ἂν ἐντυγχάνῃς, εὐθὺς σαυτῷ πρόλεγε· οὗτος τίνα δόγματα ἔχει περὶ ἀγαθῶν καὶ κακῶν; εἰ γὰρ περὶ ἡδονῆς καὶ πόνου καὶ τῶν ποιητικῶν ἑκατέρου καὶ περὶ δόξης, ἀδοξίας, θανάτου, ζωῆς, τοιάδε τινὰ δόγματα ἔχει, οὐδὲν θαυμαστὸν ἢ ξένον μοι δόξει, ἐὰν τάδε τινὰ ποιῇ, καὶ μεμνήσομαι ὅτι ἀναγκάζεται οὕτως ποιεῖν.

Leopold · Teubner 1908
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Commentary

Diagnosis by doctrines. A rule for meeting people: not to judge the act at once, but "immediately to say to yourself" (εὐθὺς σαυτῷ πρόλεγε) — what doctrines (δόγματα) does he hold about TERMgood and TERMbad? Behavior is deduced from convictions: if a person takes TERMpleasure for a good and pain, disrepute, and death for evils, then his acts follow of necessity from that scale. Then "nothing will be surprising" (οὐδὲν θαυμαστόν) — astonishment and anger arise only from a failure to grasp the cause.

"He is compelled" (ἀναγκάζεται). The key move is a determinism by way of moral psychology: a person "is compelled to act so" by his false doctrines. This is the Stoic version of the Socratic "no one errs willingly": a fault is ignorance of the true good (cf. 8.59: either teach them or bear with them; 7.22: they err through ignorance and against their will; 2.1: all this comes from ignorance of good and evil, and the wrongdoer is my kin). The therapeutic conclusion is not exculpation but the removal of personal offense: another's fault is impersonal, like the juice in a fig-tree (4.6; cf. the fig-tree bearing figs, 8.15). The governing discipline is assent (to grasp the cause of the act), the sustaining one action (how to bear oneself toward people).

DisciplineDiscipline of assent
Record added2026-07-16
Statuspublished